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    • Columbia Pictures

    Little Women

    1994

    Costume seen on Samantha Mathis as Amy March

    • ITV

    Victoria

    2019

    Costume seen on Jenna Coleman as Queen Victoria

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I’ve gone back and forth on this one – is it the same costume?

This beautiful gown, likely inspired by one at The Museum of Historical Costume, was made by Colleen Atwood for Samantha Mathis as the adult Amy March in the 1994 adaptation of Louisa May Alcott’s Little Women. 

A dress that could be the same, or at the very least derived from the same pattern, appeared on Jenna Coleman as Queen Victoria in the third season of Victoria.

If the gowns are the same, the string application has been filled in with thicker roping, which could account for some of the spacing variations in the pattern, though the pattern is clearly the same.  Fringe has been removed from the sleeves, and shamrock trim has been added to the bodice. The upper portion of the skirt has been removed, though the lower portion remains.

What do you think? Please let us know in the comments below.

 

 

 

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About the Costume

I’ve gone back and forth on this one – is it the same costume?

This beautiful gown, likely inspired by one at The Museum of Historical Costume, was made by Colleen Atwood for Samantha Mathis as the adult Amy March in the 1994 adaptation of Louisa May Alcott’s Little Women. 

A dress that could be the same, or at the very least derived from the same pattern, appeared on Jenna Coleman as Queen Victoria in the third season of Victoria.

If the gowns are the same, the string application has been filled in with thicker roping, which could account for some of the spacing variations in the pattern, though the pattern is clearly the same.  Fringe has been removed from the sleeves, and shamrock trim has been added to the bodice. The upper portion of the skirt has been removed, though the lower portion remains.

What do you think? Please let us know in the comments below.

 

 

 

I’ve gone back and forth on this one – is it the same costume?

This beautiful gown, likely inspired by one at The Museum of Historical Costume, was made by Colleen Atwood for Samantha Mathis as the adult Amy March in the 1994 adaptation of Louisa May Alcott’s Little Women. 

A dress that could be the same, or at the very least derived from the same pattern, appeared on Jenna Coleman as Queen Victoria in the third season of Victoria.

If the gowns are the same, the string application has been filled in with thicker roping, which could account for some of the spacing variations in the pattern, though the pattern is clearly the same.  Fringe has been removed from the sleeves, and shamrock trim has been added to the bodice. The upper portion of the skirt has been removed, though the lower portion remains.

What do you think? Please let us know in the comments below.

 

 

 

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  • Colleen Atwood

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  1. If you zoom in on the inside of the sleeve worn by Jenna and you can see the original scalloped edge tucked up. Perhaps it was modified because it was too big for her?

  2. Interesting! Could be a cool new immersive format for the site.
    My initial two cents: Little Women shows a whole elaborate matching ensemble. Is there more than the jacket on Victoria? If it’s a single piece, I would tend towards ‘not the exact same piece’ with alterations. Mostly, because I would hope they wouldn’t completely and irreversibly seperate such a sophisticated ensemble. And the would-be alterations on Victorias jacket are… hefty.
    Another point could be: ‘Little Women’ is an American studio production, not many more costumes have turned up from over the time. Victoria is a British based TV production, so chances are, costumes might have been drawn from or gone back to different stock’n’store companies.
    Maybe there’s an embroidery pattern available or an existant historical garment both costumes might be inspired by?

    • There is a skirt in Victoria, which I should have uploaded and didn’t. There are two parts to the skirt in Little Women, but it looks like the top portion was removed for Victoria.  It’s odd because there is so much similar, but so much difference. But I agree it would be hard for those productions to share costumes…It was just one of those things I spotted and was like “Wait, that’s so similar!”   I agree it MUST at the very least be from the same pattern if they are not the same piece.  

      • Took one more look at the patterning and it is largely the same motive but the ‘drawing’ is more neat and spikey on the one in LW, more rounded and a weensy bit undefined on Vicky, so it’s not just a trick of light and thread colouring. The decor follows the same pattern but it’s not the same sample of embroidery. E.g. look at the stem starting the pattern on the faux-lapels – visible on (our) left side: On Amy it blooms from a point into an elegantly curved branch, the flower petals are longer, giving a fuller, wider appearance. On Vicky it seems like a cut-off branch and the leaves and blooms are a bit more compact, leaving an over all roomier, elongated & less tightly packed appearance of the embroidered parts. Still astonishing similarities in the jackets, construction-wise as well. I bet there is a behind-the-scenes story to it that the costumers could chat and wink about.

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Costume Commentary

  1. If you zoom in on the inside of the sleeve worn by Jenna and you can see the original scalloped edge tucked up. Perhaps it was modified because it was too big for her?

  2. Interesting! Could be a cool new immersive format for the site.
    My initial two cents: Little Women shows a whole elaborate matching ensemble. Is there more than the jacket on Victoria? If it’s a single piece, I would tend towards ‘not the exact same piece’ with alterations. Mostly, because I would hope they wouldn’t completely and irreversibly seperate such a sophisticated ensemble. And the would-be alterations on Victorias jacket are… hefty.
    Another point could be: ‘Little Women’ is an American studio production, not many more costumes have turned up from over the time. Victoria is a British based TV production, so chances are, costumes might have been drawn from or gone back to different stock’n’store companies.
    Maybe there’s an embroidery pattern available or an existant historical garment both costumes might be inspired by?

    • There is a skirt in Victoria, which I should have uploaded and didn’t. There are two parts to the skirt in Little Women, but it looks like the top portion was removed for Victoria.  It’s odd because there is so much similar, but so much difference. But I agree it would be hard for those productions to share costumes…It was just one of those things I spotted and was like “Wait, that’s so similar!”   I agree it MUST at the very least be from the same pattern if they are not the same piece.  

      • Took one more look at the patterning and it is largely the same motive but the ‘drawing’ is more neat and spikey on the one in LW, more rounded and a weensy bit undefined on Vicky, so it’s not just a trick of light and thread colouring. The decor follows the same pattern but it’s not the same sample of embroidery. E.g. look at the stem starting the pattern on the faux-lapels – visible on (our) left side: On Amy it blooms from a point into an elegantly curved branch, the flower petals are longer, giving a fuller, wider appearance. On Vicky it seems like a cut-off branch and the leaves and blooms are a bit more compact, leaving an over all roomier, elongated & less tightly packed appearance of the embroidered parts. Still astonishing similarities in the jackets, construction-wise as well. I bet there is a behind-the-scenes story to it that the costumers could chat and wink about.

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  1. If you zoom in on the inside of the sleeve worn by Jenna and you can see the original scalloped edge tucked up. Perhaps it was modified because it was too big for her?

  2. Interesting! Could be a cool new immersive format for the site.
    My initial two cents: Little Women shows a whole elaborate matching ensemble. Is there more than the jacket on Victoria? If it’s a single piece, I would tend towards ‘not the exact same piece’ with alterations. Mostly, because I would hope they wouldn’t completely and irreversibly seperate such a sophisticated ensemble. And the would-be alterations on Victorias jacket are… hefty.
    Another point could be: ‘Little Women’ is an American studio production, not many more costumes have turned up from over the time. Victoria is a British based TV production, so chances are, costumes might have been drawn from or gone back to different stock’n’store companies.
    Maybe there’s an embroidery pattern available or an existant historical garment both costumes might be inspired by?

    • There is a skirt in Victoria, which I should have uploaded and didn’t. There are two parts to the skirt in Little Women, but it looks like the top portion was removed for Victoria.  It’s odd because there is so much similar, but so much difference. But I agree it would be hard for those productions to share costumes…It was just one of those things I spotted and was like “Wait, that’s so similar!”   I agree it MUST at the very least be from the same pattern if they are not the same piece.  

      • Took one more look at the patterning and it is largely the same motive but the ‘drawing’ is more neat and spikey on the one in LW, more rounded and a weensy bit undefined on Vicky, so it’s not just a trick of light and thread colouring. The decor follows the same pattern but it’s not the same sample of embroidery. E.g. look at the stem starting the pattern on the faux-lapels – visible on (our) left side: On Amy it blooms from a point into an elegantly curved branch, the flower petals are longer, giving a fuller, wider appearance. On Vicky it seems like a cut-off branch and the leaves and blooms are a bit more compact, leaving an over all roomier, elongated & less tightly packed appearance of the embroidered parts. Still astonishing similarities in the jackets, construction-wise as well. I bet there is a behind-the-scenes story to it that the costumers could chat and wink about.

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