Seems like this dress is kinda following me. I just saw it again on the character Mary Bowles in Apple TV+’s Dickinson.
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Seems like this dress is kinda following me. I just saw it again on the character Mary Bowles in Apple TV+’s Dickinson.
I’m wondering if the dress on Mary Bowles is the same dress in Buddenbrooks, but that the other sightings are a different dress. Those two look the same. Two really similar dresses? Buddenbrooks and Dickenson for one, then Victoria, Madding Crowd, Copperfield and Victoria and Albert for dress number two? I’m not totally sure, but this just now occurred to me looking at them – you’re right the fabric is absolutely the same, so it seems like they’d all be the same dress…but Buddenbrooks and Dickenson has the lower neckline maybe? What do you think? I’m not totally sure what to think!
I have been wondering the same. The arguments that speak against it are that Buddenbrooks and Victoria as well as Victoria and Dickinson share other costumes as well which speaks for using the same costume house and I kind of doubt they would have two so insanely similar dresses unless they were once part of a set, which isn’t impossible but then we would have to find an even earlier use than Far From The Madding Crowd. My second argument against it, is that I think the two “flaps” in the middle could possibly be folded away and the neckline itself been lowered over the years. It would make the dress more versatile. Unfortunately the issue is that Victoria hides the important parts quite well underneath the added lace. And Dickinson hides the sleeves too well to say whether they might still have the ruffles seen on Buddenbrooks.
The argument for two dresses is that it isn’t completely impossible as I said and that Buddenbrooks costume designer Barbara Baum usually created costumes for her main characters, however this particular dress was not part of the exhibition which showed off some of her work inlcuding significant Buddenbrooks dresses, so maybe it wasn’t her creation after all?
So in conclusion, I’m as clueless as you and on the fence about it. I can see it working both way. Maybe this is a new entry for the undetermined section and more eyes (and possibly more sightings) would help solve this mystery. However way it goes, it or both are beautiful dresses and still in use which gives me hope that we will eventually find out when a production doesn’t hide key features of it.
I have been trying to determine whether this is the same dress with alterations worn by Tony Buddenbrook in Buddenbrooks (2008) or whether it is is just a very similar fabric. It is driving me insane .D If only I had access to the actual movie and not just one picture.
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Oh this is really interesting! I agree, seeing the fabric move in the movie would certainly help. I think this is very possibly the same, but I am with you, I am not totally 100% sure on that.
Since I wanted to watch the movie anyway and couldn’t find it for streaming, I just bought the DVD. So I guess in about a week we could have our answer.
I just watched the movie and now I’m leaning towards it being indeed the same dress. The “color change” on screen looks pretty much like in the above pictures. I will try to take some screenshots of it.
I’m watching the making of but it isn’t too helpful in terms of costumes. They only say a lot were made in England but 150 specifically in Germany. So idk if they really mean they made costume in England or if they mean they pulled a lot from an English costume house (which I think sounds much more likely).
I agree about being made in England meaning they came from a costume house there. That makes sense. Exciting about the dress!
Since I’m now also sure that I saw a green set that was also in this year’s Belgravia: The Next Generation, I’m even more convinced it is the same dress. I will submit my screenshots in a sec (unfortunately the quality is sub-par because it was only a DVD I could get).
Thank you!
Of course, shortly after I submitted and I shut down my laptop, I think I stumbled across this dress again. I will take a closer look but there is a dress Jenna Coleman wears as Queen Victoria in Victoria’s second season that looks strikingly similar. I’ll investigate tomorrow.
Yes! I know the one you are speaking of, and I too have been meaning to go back and see if I can find if it is the same. Can’t wait to see what you determine.
Neat how the three different costumers filled the neckline of this piece – necklace, modesty panel, lace insert.
Love this shot silk.
Me too, it’s SUCH a stunning dress. I am such a sucker for shot silk. Also, I would have bet $100 I had already uploaded this dress to the site…but apparently I was very wrong.